![]() Gail: So he didn’t take the same pleasure in poking his own party that John McCain did, back when McCain was that other McCain. ![]() Him at that moment, but he really was putting the interests of the troops first, at least as he saw them. He was pained, because he knew his colleagues were hating I went to see him one morning when full page ads appeared in The Times and The Post. His picture and his quotations to bash Republicans in newspaper ads. By the end of this period, Hagel had taken some positions that put him out of step with the Bush administration. There is nothing harder than being unpopular in your own workplace. Generally speaking, he was offering advice on how to make things better. He seems to me like a really smart choice for Defense.ĭavid: Some people were critics of the war for negative political reasons. Gail: I’m so glad you still have a good opinion of him. I found Hagel totally admirable, even though I often disagreed with him. Gail: I think you were the one who told me that it’s hard to be a passionate moderate.ĭavid: During that time I spent a fair bit of time with Chuck Hagel. The Senate is notĪ place that lends itself to high drama, unless your name is Lyndon Johnson. My problem was that I could never get a narrative thread. I’d love to get them all in a room with a bottle of Scotch.ĭavid: I probably should have written that book because they’ve all gone on to do pretty interesting things. Über-heroine of the Democratic party McCain has been transformed into a walking snit and Lindsey Graham is a 24/7 TV talking head reflecting the crankier aspects of the Republican Senate. Biden’s being hailed as the most influential vice president in history Hagel’s on the way to Defense Hillary’s the Gail: Wow, and look at what they’ve each turned into. The senators were John McCain, Chuck Hagel, Joe Biden, Lindsey Graham, plus Hillary Clinton and Joe Lieberman. It was a group biography of senators who had offices on the second floor of the Russell Senate Office Building,Īlong with selected friends. In The Conversation, David Brooks and Gail Collins talk between columns every Wednesday.ĭavid: Gail, between 20 I did some preliminary work on an idea I had for a book.
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